GE F650 Manual

							CHAPTER 6:  COMMISSIONING6.17 RECLOSER (79)
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6.17.2  Recloser status
BLOCK
Activate the block input and verify that the recloser is in BLOCK status.
Close the breaker and wait for 5 seconds.
Command a trip and verify that the breaker opens but there is no reclose.
INHIBITION BY RECLOSING CONDITIONS
Close the breaker and wait for 5 seconds.
Command a trip, verify that the breaker opens and wait for the first shot.
Activate the inhibition input and command a new trip.
Verify that the breaker opens, wait for 8 seconds and verify that the relay does not reclose.
6.17.3  External reclose initiation
Close the breaker and wait for 5 seconds.
Activate the reclose initiation input and open the br eaker, verify that the relay executes the first shot 
						

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6.18 THERMAL IMAGE ELEMENT (49) CHAPTER 6:  COMMISSIONING
6.18   Thermal image element (49)
Disable all protection elements except for Thermal Model (49).
Set the pickup level to 2 A.
Set the time constant t1 to 3 minutes and t2 to one time t1.
Apply currents of 2, 5, and 10 times the tap and ensure that the operation times are within the range described on the 
following table:
After each measuring, the thermal element must be reset to zero in order to start the next test at a zero thermal status 
condition.
Repeat the test selecting a time constant t1 of 60 minutes. Verify that the operation time is within the range described on 
the following table:
After each measuring, the thermal element must be reset to zero in order to start the next test at a zero thermal status 
condition.
Rated Current (A)Applied Current (A)Times de set tapOperation time (s)
4.0 248.5 - 53.6
5 10.0 57.06 - 7.80
20.0 101.77 - 1.95
Rated Current (A)Applied Current (A)Times de set tapOperation time (s)
4.0 2960 - 1072
5 10.0 5141 - 156
20.0 1035.4 - 39 
						

							GEK-113000-AFF650 DIGITAL BAY CONTROLLER 7-1
F650 Digital Bay Controller
Chapter 7:  Frequently asked questions
GE
Grid Solutions
FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
7.1  Communications
Q1. Does the F650 support DNP and ModBus over the Ethernet port?
A1. F650 units support both protocol
 s over both the asynchronous serial ports and the Ethernet LAN synchronous port 
using TCP/IP and UDP/IP la yers over the Ethernet. 
Q2. Does this equipment support dual IP access?
A2. Yes, it supports two independent IP addresses in aliasi n
 g mode. Those address go in the communications settings 
Network0 and Network1.
Q3. Is the protocol IEC 870-103 supported by the F650?
A3. Yes, IEC 870-103 is supported by the F650 in f irmware version 5.00 and higher.
Q4. Can the F650 be used as a DNP master station?
A4. Not at this moment . It works as a slave IED station for all protocols.
Q5. How many communication ports are included in the F650?
A5. The equipment has 2 different boards, one for asynchronous serial ports and another for a high-speed synchronous  E
 thernet port . The f irst board has 2 comm ports, COM1 and CO M2. COM2 is multiplexed with the front serial RS232 port , 
whereas the COM1 port is comp letely independent from COM2.
The synchronous LAN port is ETH_1/ETH2 or ETH_E/ETH_A/ETH_B (Depending on model. 
Q6. Are there one or two Ethernet ports?
A6. The equipment has only 1 Ethernet port . For redundant f iber op ti
 c versions, redundancy is done at the physical level (f iber 
optic) but there is just one port .  
						

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7.1 COMMUNICATIONS CHAPTER 7:  FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
Q7. How many different communication Ethernet sessions can be opened through the LAN port?
A7. ModBus TCP/IP:4 sockets 
DNP TCP/IP:3 sessions (from version 1.72 on) 
Q8. May I use the cooper 10/100 BaseTX connection included in the basic model with all protocols?
A8. Yes, it may be used with all protocols. In noisy substation  en
 vironments and/or long distances, it is recommended to use 
f iber optic options due to much better EMC performance and immu nity. For f iber optic models, it is necessary to adjust an 
internal jumper to use the copper port .
Q9. Remote I/O CAN bus. Does it  suppor
 t DeviceNet protocol?
A9. No it does not support DeviceNet .
Q10. Which functions are available in the relay web server? 
A10. Currently, it includes several functions fo r 
 viewing measures and retrieving information.
Q11. Q11 May I use URPC to program the relay? 
A11. Only oscillography records may be viewed with URPC once downloaded to a f ile using the ENERVISTA 650 Setup software.
Q12. May I connect URs and F650s to the same Ethernet?
A12. Yes, either in cable as  in 
 f iber, or even mix them. 
Q13. How do I connect with f iber 10-BASE-FL UR relays with 100-BASE-FX F650 relays?
A13. Take into account that an UR is never connected directly to a F650 (neither two UR nor two F650 with each other) but they  ar
 e always connected through a hub or switch. The hub or switch where the URs are connected must be 10-BASE-FL and 
the hub or switch for the F650 must be 100-BASE-FX.
Q14. How do I connect with cable 10_BASE-T UR relays with 10/100-BASE-TX F650 relays?
A14. The answer to this question is as described before but also in
  this case there is an advantage added, because the hub 10-
BASE-TX port is able to understand a 10-BASE-T port . This  means that a hub 10-BASE-T port may be connected to an UR 
or a F650, and a hub 10/100-BASE-TX port may  be connected either to an UR or F650.
Q15. What happens with f iber optic connectors compatibility,  b
 ecause the hub that I have has a different connector to the 
one of the F650, although both are 100-BASE-FX?
A15. Just buy f iber cables with the appropriate male connectors .
  For the UR and F650 side we need the same connectors, ST 
type, for the hub side, the correspondent ones. And in what concer ns to the f iber type, it is used the same for 10 as for 100, 
it is the 50/125 or 62.5/125 multimode, this last one allows longer distances.
Q16. What is the difference between a hub and a switch?
A16. In a repeater type hub (shared hub), one unit talks and the rest listen. If all the units are talking at the same time ther e may 
be
  collisions in the messages, what may produce certain communication delays.
The switch (switched hub) has very powerful processors and a lot of memory and it is much more expensive than the hub. 
It directs messages to the proper destination avoiding collisions and allowing a much more efficient communication.
Q17. Why do we have 10/100 compatibility for cable but not for f iber? 
						

							CHAPTER 7:  FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS7.2 PROTECTION
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A17. The cable has some advantages that the f iber does not have, and it is that the signal attenuation in short and medium 
distances, is worthless and this is truth for low and high frequency signals. By the contrary, the light in one f iber optic is 
highly attenuated, being much worse in case of high frequenc ies than in the low ones. The 10-BASE-FL f iber transmission 
is performed in a wavelength of 850nm, what allows a less expensive electronic than the 1300 nm used in 100-BASE-FX 
f iber transmission. Using, in both cases, the same glass multimode f iber type, the attenuation to 1300 nm is lower than the 
850 nm ones, this way the greater attenuation of the 100 Mbit s is compensated. There is another f iber standard, the 100-
BASE-SX, which uses 850 nm to 100 Mbits, being compatible with the 10-BASE-FL one, although it sacrif ices the maximum 
distance to 300 m. Nowadays, this standard has not had success among Ethernet equipment manufacturers and 
suppliers.
7.2  Protection
Q1. Does the F650 support IRIG-B signals? Which type and accuracy? How many units may be connected to the  same source?
A1. Yes, the F650 includes an IRIG-B input for all models, including the basic ones.
It uses DC level format B. Form ats used are B0000, B0002 and B0003.
Actual accuracy is 1 millisecond. Internal sampling rate allows true 1 ms accuracy time tagging.
The input burden is very low. The maximum number of units  that may be connected to a generator depends on its output 
driving capability. Up to 60 units have been successfully connected with equipments commonly used in the market.
Q2. Does the equipment work with dry inputs in both AC and DC?
A2. The equipment works only with DC inputs.
Inputs should be driven with externally generated DC curren t. No special 48 Vdc or other outputs are included in the 
equipment to drive these inputs; therefore, contacts connect ed to the equipment should be connected to a DC source.
Q3. Is it oscillography programmable?
A3. Yes, the sampling rate is programmable (4, 8, 16, 32 or 64 samples per input). The depth depends on the sampling rate.
Q4. Do I have to select a different model for 1 or 5 A?
A4. No. The same model is able to work with either /1 A or  /5 
 A rated secondary currents. There are high accuracy sensing 
transformers that allow the use of any current input through th e same terminals to reduce the spares and simplify wiring.
Q5. In my installation, several digital inputs become active whe
 n I energize the transformer. How can I reduce sensitivity?
A5. By selecting debounce time and/or voltage threshold, the relay may adapt its sensitivity to different applications. Select  th
 e maximum voltage threshold and debounce time (recommended 15 ms) to minimize AC coupling effects. 
						

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7.3 CONTROL & HMI CHAPTER 7:  FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
7.3  Control & HMI
Q1. What is the difference between Get/Send info from/to relay and Upload/Download info files to/from relay?
A1. Get/Send are used for settings and configuration storage  that al
 though both are in a unique file, are sent separately 
in two times. Upload/Download are used for projec t or PLC files group storage. These files are the 
setting_configuration file source. To operate, the F650 does  not need the source files; the Upload/Download tool is 
destined to serve as historic file.
Q2. can I program interlocks?
A2. Yes, via ENERVISTA 650 Setup interlocks may be programmed from very simple to advanced schemes.
Q3. Can we rotate the display 90 degrees to show feeders vertically?
A3. No. The product has been designed to view it in ho rizo
 ntal mode (landscape) due to the following reasons:
It is easier to read the LCD display because it has been designed for horizontal positions.
Compatibility between text display (4x20 characters) and LCD displa y (16x40 characters or 128x240 pixels).
Refresh speed is better in horizontal than vertical format.
Q4. Do I need a laptop or handheld to program the unit?
A4. No, all main operations can easily be performed with just  t
 he incorporated HMI. Handheld or laptops may be required to 
download large quantities of information (such as oscillograms, etc.) but they are not mandatory for a conventional user 
that just needs to change settin gs, view measurements, states, etc.
Q5. Is there password security for protection and control?
A5. Yes, there are two passwords. An independent password for protection changes and control operations is available since  ver
 sion 1.44
Q6. Is it possible to have a remote HMI installed in the fron t of the panel 
 with the rest of the relay in the rear side?
A6. Not in the present version.
Q7. Is it possible to program a default screen for the HMI?
A7. In graphic display versions the user may program a custom scr
 een with the single-line diagram, measurements, etc. In 
text display models, there is a choice of logo, measurements, or scrolling both screens.
Q8. May I force inputs and outputs to ease commissioning and testing?
A8. Yes.
Q9. How can I disable the rotary knob buzzer?
A9. Press ESC key  more than 3 seconds and then press the knob during a short pulse.
Q10. Why do appear strange texts on the display when switching on the relay?
A10. You have pressed any button and the HMI has entered test mode. 
The display messages are updated after a few minutes, on ce the relay has completed the starting sequence. 
						

							CHAPTER 7:  FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS7.4 RELAY CONFIGURATION
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7.4  Relay conf iguration
Q1. Does the Service contact on the Power Supply board cover all possible failures or do I have to create an 
output on the I/O board that includes all the internal errors I can access in the logic?
A1. The power supply ready contact only monitor hardware failur es i
 n the power supply, to monitor the internal error of 
the unit it is necessary to configure a virtual output to and the assign it to t he device desired (contact output, LED, 
etc.).
Q2. I set an output contact as Latched. If I do not se t a r
 eset condition, will it reset from the ESC key?
A2. No, you have to conf igure the contact output reset signal (in  S
 etpoint > Relay Configuration > Outputs). 
      The ESC key only reset the LED indicators. 
						

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7.4 RELAY CONFIGURATION CHAPTER 7:  FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS 
						

							GEK-113000-AFF650 DIGITAL BAY CONTROLLER 8-1
F650 Digital Bay Controller
Chapter 8:  F650 troubleshooting guide
GE
Grid Solutions
F650 TROUBLESHOOTING GUIDE
8.1  Symptoms and recommended actions
F650 units have been designed and verified using the most advanced and reliable equipment. Mounting and testing 
automation ensure a high consistency of the final product.  Before sending a unit back to the factory, we strongly 
suggest you follow the recommendations below. These actions may solve the problem, and if not they will help define 
the problem for quicker repair.
To send a unit back to the factory for repair, use the approp riate RETURN MATERIAL AUTHORIZATION process, and follow 
the shipping instructions provided by our Service Department, especially in the case of international shipments. This will 
lead to a faster and more efficient solution to your problem.
CategorySymptomPossible causeRecommended action
Protection The relay does not trip -Function not permitted
- Function blocked
- Output not assigned
- The unit is not set to ready -Set the function permission to 
EN
 ABLED
-Check Protection units block screen
-Program the output to the desired 
f
 unction using ENERVISTA 650 Setup 
logic conf iguration
- Verify that the general setting is set 
t
 o disable and the out of service state 
is not active 
						

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8.1 SYMPTOMS AND RECOMMENDED ACTIONS CHAPTER 8:  F650 TROUBLESHOOTING GUIDE
Ge n e r a l When feeding the 
unit
, no indicator is lit 
up -Insufficient power supply
- Wrong versions
-Fuse failure
- Loose fuse
-Incorrect wiring -Verify the voltage level using a 
multi
meter in the power supply 
terminals, and check that it is within 
the model range
-Check relay and ENERVISTA 650 
Setup v

ersions are the same
-Remove power supply, dismount the 
pow
 er supply module and replace the 
fuse
-Same as above with same fuse
-Make sure that terminals labeled + 
and – ar

e connected to the 9-pin 
connector corresponding to the 
power source
Communication The relay does not 
comm

unicate via the 
front RS232 port -Incorrect cable
-Damaged cable
-Relay or PC not grounded
-Incorrect baud rate, port , address, 
etc.  -Make sure you are using a straight
cable
-Replace the cable
-Ensure ground connection
-Test other ports, other baud rates, 
etc. Mak

e sure that the 
communication parameters in the 
computer match the ones in the relay.
Ge n e r a l After Updating the 
f

irmware the relay 
does not start up and 
always shows the 
message “Os 
Loading…”. Check that the bootware version 
ma
tch with the firmware version -If there is an incompatibility between 
boot and 
firmware version, update to 
the corresponding boot and after that 
update the f irmware version
-If the boot and f irmware versions are 
corr

ect , perform the f irmware update 
procedure again.